So Eve Myles got nominated for an award. Now I really shouldn't judge because I couldn't be bothered to watch Miracle something or another, but my first reaction to the news was much like Michael Bluth's reaction to Anne: "Her?" Of course, my reaction merely reflected the sadness I felt because the nominations for Myles and Torchwood seem to validate the series that should never be spoken of again.

Ultimately, I wondered why Anna Torv didn't get nominated instead, especially since she had to play five different versions of her character, and because that wasn't enough, she had to impersonate Leonard Nimoy for three episodes, which she did remarkable well. But what it all boils down to is that while Eve Myles is a good actress, Torv has the greater challenge in having to play the fully realized, very complicated Olivia Dunham.

While RTD believes that a writer should not "rape Snow White," Olivia survived an abusive childhood. During that childhood, she endured trials for an experimental drug that relied on fear to work. Her lover was killed, and when his memories were implanted in her brain, she found out that he was keeping secrets from her. She survived being propelled through the windshield of her SUV, and that was right after she made a trip to an alternate universe. She killed the shapeshifter who had assumed the identity of her dead partner. The man she loves unwittingly slept with her doppleganger from another universe; this occurred while she had been kidnapped and almost had her brain removed. There's more to the kidnapping story, but it involves a whole lot of crazy shit she had to endure. Clearly, Olivia isn't being treated with kid gloves, while Gwen... well, she's lived through some horrible losses, but the idea that she should be treated like a Disney princess implies that she's too fragile to deal with the really heavy stuff. But you know, all the crap that Olivia has been through makes her an interesting character because it colors how she proceeds with a case. She's not just blindly going forward because of some notion about the way the world works. She's always thinking and processing, and you can see that on Torv's face.

And goodness, Torv is so good when Olivia is vulnerable. Sure she's had to do these big emotional scenes, but she has this quiet, understated way of expressing pain and loneliness. It's not about emotion that can't be contained and therefore spews everywhere. It more about all of these feeling that are just seeping through the cracks no matter how reserved she's trying to be. Torv is such a nuanced actress (no bug eyes in sight), and I connect with her completely.

Olivia sometimes questions her boss, but she isn't going to scream to get her way. In a scene in "One Night in October," she pulls her boss out of a meeting so she could explain her misgivings about a case in private. She had to go through with things her boss's way, but she understood the chain of command and acted accordingly. However, in other episodes, we've seen that her boss also trusts her enough to let her do things her way when he feels that she is right. It's kind of nice to see characters have a mature relationship onscreen based on trust and experience rather than the tired back and forth we see between Jack and Gwen. Maybe it's just me, but yelling doesn't always mean good drama, and more often than not it makes me uncomfortable and lose empathy for the characters.

Really, I shouldn't compare Myles to Torv since I haven't watched Miracle Whatever. I suppose this is my knee jerk reaction to this nomination which mirrors one of my criticisms of the show: why is it always about the flashy characters? But perhaps I should be happy that an actress from a sci-fi show was recognized at all. Maybe Eve did get a richer character to play this time around. I don't know, but Gwen lost my interest a long time ago. Olivia had me at hello and continues to fascinate me. She is my strong female character. She is my Wonder Woman.

Of course, if Eve is nominated for an Emmy and Torv isn't, I may lose my shit.
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From: [identity profile] kamiandcat.livejournal.com


Well, from what little I read about it on Facebook this morning I think this award is a very small and unimportant one. To me it would even smell a bit like "the only ones still willing to take a few dollar notes from a Mister Davies under the table, even after even SFX crawled out of is a*, but funny enough Torchwood is also nominated. Not Torchwood:Miracle Day, Torchwood. Could be a mistake, but Starz is also not mentioned, only the BBC.

Me thinks the nominees were picked random and without much care at all. Clearly they have no idea about the latest version of Torchwood, that it was a co-production in which Starz was the major partner and that it was basically independent from the original show. I doubt the person (group?) who selected the the nominees saw a single episode.

And I guess the Emmis are safe. The have a name they could lose and I doubt they'll risk it over the pile of crap Miracle Shit was.

From: [identity profile] stlscape.livejournal.com


the showrunners seem like such great guys who appreciate their fans

They appreciate the people who help them too. My co-worker routinely provides some research info for each episode, and as a thank you to him (we're not allowed to accept gifts), they found an old station wagon that was the same model as the car he learned to drive on, and put that in the show. (I don't watch Fringe, but I think it's driven/was driven by one of the main characters.) It's a little thing, but it took some effort on their part when they didn't have to do anything at all.

From: [identity profile] ella-caramella.livejournal.com


I completely agree on Anna Torv, she's great.

Eve Myles on the other hand... well, if bulging your eyes out, shouting and over-gesticulating could pass for "acting", then I assume she could qualify as an "actress".

Also, where are Sean Bean, Michelle Fairley, John Noble, etc...

From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com


I didn't find her that good in Merlin - and I saw Merlin before I'd get to watch Torchwood and learn to hate Gwen. But that's just me, most likely.

From: [identity profile] dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com


This. is. Ridiculious.

Anna Torv is a goddess compared to Eve Myles and Olivia is everything Gwen will never be. Anyone who disagrees I challenge to watch the Fringe episode "6B" (season 3, episode 14) right next to "adrift".

Gwen pushes a civilian into classified territory, disregards any consequenes, Ignores everything her boss says and in the end, saves no-one and hurts almost everyone.

Olivia talks to the civ's about their connection to their loved ones, Follows orders, saves the day and helps the victims move on with their lives.

And then I'm not even talking about the skills both actresses have displayed...which have been thoroughly mentioned here before. Eve can't even make ONE character look real. Anna does about five!

The Emmy's have already been awarded on 18 september, roughly 9 days after the last episode of MD , Julliane Marquis won or best Drama actress and Peter Dinklage won best supportive actor(So, that's where the GoT actors go, to the real awards!)

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


I know that this is an anti-Gwen comm, not an ant-Eve Myles one, and I've never seen Fringe or Anna Torv...
But I DID sit through 10 hours of TW (10 hrs of life lost) and can assure you theat EM wasn't given any better material than in the first 2 series; in fact it was much, much worse. The entire script pandered to Gwen's super skills and 'bad ass' persona, giving much opportunity for wide bulging eyes, screechy shouting, improbable action scenes, Gwen being her usual unpleasant self ("...when people died it mademe feel important. I loved it..." or whatever), selfish moaning about her 'famerlee'- the usual stuff. It wasn't going to win anyone any BAFTAs. So I can only conclude that these awards aren't quite up to those standards. It wasn't even entertaining tosh- it was just crap tosh (no insult to Tosh, with a capital T, of course).

From: [identity profile] kamiandcat.livejournal.com


Sometimes I wonder if Eve copies too much from JB. Because Jack is at his best when he's a bit "over the top", JB is good at that. But if Gwen was meant to be the "human" counterpart to omnisexual exotic future Jack then I can totally understand why most viewers turned towards the rest of the team esp. Ianto to fill the gap left by cow eyes (no insult to cows).

From: [identity profile] kassy2.livejournal.com


I saw this yesterday, looked at the actress list, looked at the show list and then thought "no problemo, they are not going to win anything anyway, but a pity they got nominated at all"
We are not supposed to knock EM here so I shall not, beyond stating that, IMO, she does not deserve to be on the list at all.

From: [identity profile] kassy2.livejournal.com


I saw her in Merlin, I saw her, (and instantly forgot her) in DW I saw her in Belonging, which was a Welsh language series described as a "drama" but I actually think RTD write that bit as it is as much drama as is Home and Away. She was best suited to that level of acting, IMNSHO, sorry, but I have not seen any growth, any depth, any....er...anything (sorry Mods, I shall understand if you want to remove this and I shall comment on this no further. This is my opinion, no more)

From: [identity profile] neurwen.livejournal.com


I'm sorry, but I have to say I always tought that EM is a mediocre actress. She just have one expression on her face, the boiled goldfish with bulging eyes and she is only good at screeching.

I think this nomination came because RTD (and probably BBCWW, which is partially run by one of Rusty's minion) sponsored her, just like he usually does; and because someone shred some money.

I totally agree with you all about Anna Torv.

BTW this probably is the only useless, unknown and minor award TW and EM could have been nominated to.

From: [identity profile] slns7552.livejournal.com


I know we are not supposed to be discuss the actress or actor just the character, but sometimes it is hard to separate the 2 as it is the actress or actor that brings the character to live. A good performer can take a sucky character and turn the character around. Look what GDL did to Ianto. Ianto was a nothing character and he made him loved by a lot of people. Gwen on the other hand would have benefitted if TW had good writers, good storytelling, and an actress who knew what she was doing.

From: [identity profile] kamiandcat.livejournal.com


I think a lot of things come together here. Gwen who is one of the worst characters written in the history of television, it's simply impossible to have her as the "heart of Torchwood" and on the other hand lying, cheating and not giving a f**k 24/7. That like trying to have a room dark and lighted at the same time. Then there's Eve, who is obviously the kind of actor who needs somebody to guide her through the scenes otherwise she's over act. No offense, with a good director, maybe she would be brilliant. Well and then in comes Russel and his band of merry men. Russel who sees Eve as his muse, his snow white, who sees no fault. There is simply nobody there to tell her that sometimes a little less is more.
John Barrowman is very good when he is working with actors who can outbalance his over top way (because Jack needs to be like that), but I can't really remember a scene in which that worked for Eve, too. No idea if that's her fault, because she thinks shes already perfect or if it came from RTD who obviously thinks she IS perfect.

From: [identity profile] twndwrawesome.livejournal.com

Who deserves the award


I think a rat deserves it more they are more intresting than gwen bloody cooper is
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