Episode 3 Ratings & Some Thoughts About MD

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

From TV by the Numbers:

On Friday, the 10pm telecast of Torchwood: Miracle Day averaged 636,000 viewers, up 4% from last week’s 609,000. The 11pm encore scored another 382,000, up from last week’s 367,000.  So this week’s Friday episodes combined for 1.018 million viewers versus last week’s 976,000. 4% up is better than 4% down. I don’t have much demographic information (not that it really matters for premium cable channels anyway), but the 10pm telecast had a 0.2 rating with adults 18-49.

I guess those 9 hysterical womez tuned in for the 'Full Man on Man' Sex  ( that's what JB called it) . Bad womenz! You were clearly told to go watch Supernatural if you wanted that kind of stuff. 

Here's what I don't get. We already know what's going on (can't die). And they pretty much told us who is responsible (Big Pharma). And we know that Earth is going to go to hell in a handbasket.
So what the hell are they going to spend the next 7 episodes on?
Gwen and Rhys talking on Skype?
PC Andy saying, "What's all this then?"
More car chases and things blowing up?
Jack getting more boo-boos that heal slowly and whining about them?
Finding out why Mr. Pedo is helping Big Pharma?
Gwen single-handedly disarming a nuclear weapon?
Determining whether Mekji Phifer and Alexa Havins can act their way out of a paper bag? (Why are they so wooden?)

Could they make Jack any more of a wimp and Gwen any more AWESOME? Could Esther be the least intelligent CIA analyst on the planet? And for the love of Myfanwy, is Jack really going to sleep with Oswald the Pedo? Say it isn't so!

Stay tuned - for the LULZ.

Comments

[littleatem.livejournal.com]

Don't give RTD ideas, he will make Jack a bigger wimp and put Gwen higher up on her f********** pedestal. Really, the man-sex wasn't even that impressive (aside from a good view, I only watched that part on Youtube) and it was quickly followed up with a different sex scene that made me scream and cover my eyes. The women who watched for that scene will probably tune back out when they realize that was the big scene and the only mention of Ianto we are going to get for the rest of this B.S.

[beccadg.livejournal.com]

I guess those 9 hysterical womenz tuned in for the 'Full Man on Man' Sex ( that's what JB called it) . Bad womenz!

Don't look at me! I didn't need to see more than the five minutes of That Scene I saw posted somewhere to be thoroughly reminded why I'm not watching that show. I wanted to kill Gwen and make everything better for Jack. I'd cheerfully take some retcon for that. CoE I want to remember so I can continue to avoided it. That Scene though I would cheerfully take back. x_x

[slns7552.livejournal.com]

Now that many people tuned in for the sex scenes they may very well tune back out.

It's official on GDL's website. That was him in the scenes from Warehouse 13.

[dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com]

I'm just going to add what I had posted in the previous entry that wasn't the same and the delete the rest of it, just keeping the spam out of the Community. anyway:

To put things in perspective:

Camelot's third episode had 0.854 million viewers and a rating of 0.4 with the adults 18-49 as opposed to 1.125 million viewers and a 0.5 rating in the second.

And the only continued series Spartacus: Gods of the Arena managed to go from 1.136 million viewers and a 0.5 rating in the second episode to a 1.264 million viewers and a 0.6 rating in the third.

So, now, does anyone have any idea what sort of benefits Starz might get from the high viewing rates on BBC one? perhaps more DVD sales in the UK? although, Camelot was broadcast on Channel 4 as well, and those UK sales would've gone to Starz alone, while Miracle day will be shared with the BBC. But even so, those high ratings must bring in a lot of DVD cashy money? Well, sometime in 2010 Traffic Cops managed to get 4.2 million viewers and I'm going out on a limb here and guess that not many of those were inclined to buy the DVD...

And yes, I have no idea what we're supposed to be watching, maybe it's Rhys, sitting at home feeding his kid because he sure as hell isn't doing anything else these days...makes me wonder if this is what RTD meant when he said that ofcourse there'd be scenes in Wales and yeah Rhys was going to play an important part...so far, him and wales have been reduced to oh, say about 5 seconds per episode.

On another note: they could be spending all that time convincing the viewers that Jack's new lover with a goatee is just. That. More. Important. than Ianto.

Edited because I am just that nitpicky.

[hydrojen90.livejournal.com]

'On another note: they could be spending all that time convincing the viewers that Jack's new lover with a goatee is just. That. More. Important. than Ianto.'

This confuses me no end. In an interview, JB said that we would see a relationship that made Jack 'who he is today'. In which case, as you said, more important than Ianto. But hang on, didn't Jack almost cast himself into oblivion for eternity because he missed Ianto so much? Didn't he specifically say, and I quote, "Ianto. All the people I've lost. Don't you understand? The only one I wanted to see was you!" Soooo, not goatee-man then. Confusing! Make your mind up Beeb.

[mscatmoon.livejournal.com]

The play was for us 'fans' so that we'd be happy and move on and stop annoying them. It has nothing to do with the TV show called Miracle Day. In MD Ianto was just a convenient shag. There's apparently no Doctor in the MD universe either, since Gwen is his soul mate and some as-yet-unknown lover made Jack who he is today.

[iamme-ur2.livejournal.com]

And if they (RTD, etc) actually THINK for one second that this unknown lover will EVER surpass Ianto then they are so totally wrong.

Besides, 1, even 2 episodes of some unknown doesn't give enough time for character development or viewers to grow attached to the creep.

[dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com]

If they portray that superrelationship as magnificient as they´re portraying Gwen and Jack, then it´ll probably look like a unrequited crush on a one-night-stand, most likely from Jack's side because RTD wants to break him as much as he can.

You know what, Torchwood and all it's characters belong to the BBC, Jack wasn't even made by Russell T davies. Heck the only thing Russell did for the characters was set up a very vague premises and killed them all. Chris Chibnall, Catherine Tregenna, the actors, etc. they brought the characters to life. So, for me, RTD is just playing in someone elses sandbox with MD, The BBC just okayed it for TV.

By the way, Doesn't the break the Jack scenes sound a bit like the break the Ianto scenes in CoE? yeah, dead man walking!

[mscatmoon.livejournal.com]

I forgot to ask: By "see a relationship that made Jack who he is today" - - maybe he's talking about the morose, emo, stupid, drunk, who sacrifices children?

I'm actually glad I'm not watching, besides not having Ianto, what I've heard about Jack it would be painful to watch. Especially with Super Awesome Gwen dominating the show.

[maxine-mirkwood.livejournal.com]

Starz would be unlikely to get money from DVD sales, they don't own Torchwood just commission it's production from BBC Worldwide who are the actual owners/distributors. International sales and merchandising would belong to BBC Worldwide alone. It's just the same as the Stargates belonging to MGM not SyFy, Star Trek belonging to Paramount not the network that showed it. The commissioning network can certainly pretty much ensure the death of a show if they stop wanting it but at the end of the day, everything but screening rights belongs to the studio or production company that makes it.

[dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com]

aha! thanks for the info, so basically, Starz only has Torchwood for the new subscriptions, meaning it doesn't look rosy for the series. Camelot was from Starz and Starz alone, so those DVD's would still bring in the money.

Which leaves me with the question of how involved the Beeb is in producing it. Did they pay for anything regarding Miracle day, or is it just a matter of 'here you go, it's licensed, you can play with our stuff as long as you pay for it and we get to broadcast it?

[syien_island]

I guess those 9 hysterical womez tuned in for the 'Full Man on Man' Sex ( that's what JB called it) . Bad womenz! You were clearly told to go watch Supernatural if you wanted that kind of stuff.

Not my kind of 'Man on Man', fortunately.

[kassy2.livejournal.com]

Well, this hysterical woman did NOT tune in. I watched about 2 seconds of the scene on...whatever, can't remember....and stopped it in disgust. I used to like JB, he is light hearted and funny. I just lost what tiny shred of respect I had left for him. That was not drama RTD, that was pornography and you know what? I am not a prude but I do actually have better things to do with my time than watch pornography.
Or Pinocchio aka Mekhi Phifer!!

[iamme-ur2.livejournal.com]

I saw The Scene and honestly, as much as I detest the Brad One Night Stand character, I almost felt pity for him when Jack basically treated him like a, well, cheap whore/slut/whatever. Not enough to really care but enough to shake my head.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

This - he walks into the club like he's just looking for a good time. And then he really does treat Brad like his whore.

I have no problem with Jack looking for sex without romance or attachment but there's a bit a cruelty we haven't seen before. Even Jack at his most outragous is more flirty and persuasive than controlling. And remember, JB said this was a great scene full of 'romance.' Meh! (Remind anyone of the 'you're gonna see the relaitonship between J & I grow in CoE).

Is Jack so damaged from the loss of Ianto or (cue the sinister music) or did he do something even worse than get his whole team killed? Something that filled him with such self-loathing that he has to take it out on some stranger.

I'm betting he did. Bad Jack. You will have to die for this. You cannot continue to live in the same universe as WonderGwen. Buh-bye.

[iamme-ur2.livejournal.com]

And even though I am not big on Jack ( from teh start) his behavior towards One Night Stand pissed me off.

I could handle jack flirting his way to getting Brad into bed and them showing him wishing it was ianto (maybe by him accidentally moaning the wrong name) then either regretting it or maybe thinking that this is the beginning of accepting what happened in CoE. But for him to assert his dominance like that? That's NOT Jack! Not the Jack he became after meeting the Doctor and after all he'd been through.

As a non-Jack harkness fan, I'm pissed!!!

[dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com]

Wait? what happened? I need details, lines if possible! I can't watch this crap? did our loving flirt command brad to sleep with him? That is just not consistent with the Jack I know.

Some spoilers!!!

[iamme-ur2.livejournal.com]

Sorry for the delay in replying! Blame LJ (stupid LJ so... AGGGGHHHH!)

Also, I don't know how to LJ cut on a reply, sorry!!!

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Ok, basically it was Jack's attitude. He was ok, kinda bleah, with the flirting. The 1 Night Stand Brad tried to be coy & cute when he made a 'coat joke' and jack got all O_O at that. Then it cuts to Rex and the doc lady then back to Nekkid Brad & Still Dressed Jack are sucking face then Jack asks about condoms. Brad is like 'duh, immortal' and Jack says something about regrets last longer (aka, STDs BAD!). Brad asks if Jack's calling the shots then Jack gets all pissy and says that yes he is. Brad starts to kneel (blow job most likely) and Jack puts his hands on his shoulders and PUSHES Brad down in a way that WASN'T sexy or anything. And the look on his face... Had he acted so dominating & cold with Ianto, if he'd had that "I'm Cap Jack & I'm in charge here so get over it" look on his face, Ianto would have walked away. It just ticked me off how a scene that was supposed to be sexy & passionate was really Jack basically insisting on Brad pleasuring HIM.

Re: Some spoilers!!!

[dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com]

Ouch now that sounds just wrong, not at all like the jack who cared about humans and who had the ability to love everyone. Though, I'll admit, part of me is smug about jack simply not dealing with the loss of Ianto, another part of me is worried that he is really turning into this unredeemable asshole. Because regardless of his hard choices in the past, you knew he could love and care about every human being. Now, the new hard choices will make him look like an emotionless serial killer who is just doing it because he can.

Re: Some spoilers!!!

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

An emotional serial killer - interesting choice of words. Because rumor has it that Jack will be sleeping with pedo Oswald. See cause Jack is just as bad as Oswald isn't he. RTD is doing the same thing with Jack as he did with Ianto. Tearing down everything you thought you knew about him. (Ianto's a liar, Ianto 'takes it up the ass', Ianto's a wimp).

And yes - Jack will be a lying liar who lies by the end of this. He already a wimp, and a whiner. And he will also have done something even worse than giving the children away in the 1960s and killing his grandson.

Jack is a dead duck.

Re: Some spoilers!!!

[dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com]

oh yes, I agree, Jack is a goner! It's the exact same pattern as with Ianto. They promise the fans all sorts of things, JB doing another series and possibly a Torchwood movie, We'll get to see Jack's past and what made him to who he is, "Captain Jack is back". Meanwhile, in the show itself Jack is reduced to something completely opposite of who he was.

Quite frankly, Jack sleeping with the Pedo would be whole new level of messed up and a kick in the teeth to him saving all the kiddies on earth. Where did you get this rumor? it seems outlandish, even for RTD

Re: Some spoilers!!!

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

I saw it somewhere long ago. I don't know if its true (the Google was not my friend on this one) but if it isn't - it should be.

Re: Some spoilers!!!

[wiseheart.livejournal.com]

I can believe that, sadly. The Rustoid does his worst to destroy everything that was worthwile in Classic Torchwood. You see, this is why I don't watch Miracle Shit. I'm not the biggest Jack fan, but I don't want to see him destroyed like this.

Gwen = Rex - Am I the only one to see a resemblance?

[stlscape.livejournal.com]

Or Pinocchio aka Mekhi Phifer!!

I was just thinking about the two characters, and realized that they're twins in a lot of ways:

Self-centered
Inconsiderate of others feelings
Go off half-cocked, without adequate research
Think their way is the right way
Get special privileges their characters shouldn't be qualified for

Does anyone else see the resemblance?

Re: Gwen = Rex - Am I the only one to see a resemblance?

[littleatem.livejournal.com]

Me! Me! I see it! They also believe that nothing will go wrong with their plans, leaving Jack and what's-her-face to clean up after them when it blows up so horribly. They then continue on like nothing went wrong. Run Jack! Run to warehouse 13, you will be safe from the incompetents and you will meet up with Ianto again.

Re: Gwen = Rex - Am I the only one to see a resemblance?

[stlscape.livejournal.com]

Run Jack! Run to warehouse 13, you will be safe from the incompetents and you will meet up with Ianto again.

That SO works for me!

Re: Gwen = Rex - Am I the only one to see a resemblance?

[stlscape.livejournal.com]

I was just thinking about the two characters, and realized that they're twins in a lot of ways:

I forgot to add "Shouty" to my list, above, and someone else mentioned that in spite of all that, they've still got devoted friends!