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dr-doomsduck.livejournal.com posting in antigwenallies Jul. 15th, 2011 03:43 pm)Right, because last week I posted about the Starz numbers and there was some hassle about the UK numbers, here we have them!
Torchwood: The New World had an average audience of 4.8 million viewers on BBC One and BBC One HD, according to unofficial overnight figures.
The UK premiere of the new series had an 21% share of the audience and was the 5th most watched programme of the day, behind the four main soaps. It won the 9pm timeslot, with Single Handed on ITV1 getting 3.7 million viewers.
Episode One of the last Torchwood series, Children of Earth, had an overnight ratings of 5.9 million and a final figure of 6.47 million viewers.
The final ratings for The New World will be released next week and will include those who record the programme and watch it within seven days.
It is, as we predicted less than Children of Earth, due to the week long wait, the other popular shows and the distinct lack of Ianto. It wouldn't be fair to add the Starz numbers to it, because we cannot add the additional numbers of BBC America to CoE.
Torchwood: The New World had an average audience of 4.8 million viewers on BBC One and BBC One HD, according to unofficial overnight figures.
The UK premiere of the new series had an 21% share of the audience and was the 5th most watched programme of the day, behind the four main soaps. It won the 9pm timeslot, with Single Handed on ITV1 getting 3.7 million viewers.
Episode One of the last Torchwood series, Children of Earth, had an overnight ratings of 5.9 million and a final figure of 6.47 million viewers.
The final ratings for The New World will be released next week and will include those who record the programme and watch it within seven days.
It is, as we predicted less than Children of Earth, due to the week long wait, the other popular shows and the distinct lack of Ianto. It wouldn't be fair to add the Starz numbers to it, because we cannot add the additional numbers of BBC America to CoE.
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1499360&page=36
They started with 5.2m viewers and ended up with 4.2m viewers. Looks like they lost 1 million viewers *during* the episode!
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I was expecting the overall ratings to be lower, due to the time lag on the broadcast in the UK.
Thanks for sharing.
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These were the figures I was interested in seeing - and as the others have said, it will be even more interesting to see what happens with figures from the US and the UK for the second and third episodes. I think by week 3 we'll have an idea of how many people are going to stick with it all the way through.
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Outcasts didn't have an established fanbase as it was a brand new series and it was btw much much better than Gwenwood Miracle Dump. It's telling that what they're passing for Torchwood now, a show that's supposed to have an already established 'huge' fanbase and which is in its 4th season, gets the same viewers (or even less) as the canceled Outcasts.
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Still, it's heartening to see that even the unestablished new series are rising higher than the 'bigger, better' Torchwood
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There's a wonderful German saying describing that big number don't always prove something's high quality.
OT: Leute, frisst Scheisse! Zehn Milliarden Fliegen können sich nicht irren!
Vague translation: People, eat shit! Ten billion flies can't be wrong!
That's all I've got to say about Coe and Miracle Shit.
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Starz wants its own reward in terms of subscribers, viewers and publicity, and it wants that in the USA.
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Drama:
Camelot -> 10 episodes (1 season)
Crash -> 26 episodes (2 seasons)
Gravity -> 10 episodes (1 season)
The Pillars of the Earth -> 8 episodes (1 season)
Comedy
The Bronx Bunny Show -> 20 episodes (1 UK season and 1 US)
Head Case -> 28 episodes (3 seasons)
Party down -> 20 episodes (2 seasons)
Mind you, the only still running series Spartacus has two seasons so far. And guess what, Starz has a The brink, a supernatural crime drama coming up, which is currently TBA. So, I don't really see them doing two supernatural crime drama's at the same time.
This new thing is written by a guy from the Grudge and produced by a guy from Pirates of the carribean...so yeah, RTD is not going to beat that when it comes to credits and Starz LIKES their credits.
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Did you see the ratings in the other countries? Something tells me that they're not exactly cheering.
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Episode 2 apparently isn't going to be much better, if we're to believe the people (even the RTD lovers) on TWOP.
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The ratings:
Starz (USA) 819.000
Space (Canada) 432.000
UKTV (Australia) 79.000
BBC1 (UK) 4.8m
Not exciting. So much for the bigger and better and for reeling in new viewers. Very much indeed.
Nope. From what I read, ep. two is already a filler. Nothing really happens (50 mins. of Jack and Gwen on the plane to the USA) apart from a bit of Jack torture and humiliation, some much needed gay comic relief in the form of more unnecessary homophobic jokes at the expense of a random character who's ghey, our heroes being stuck inside the airport because they can't find a way out (apparently they can't read anymore and keep missing the doors with the 'EXIT' sign) and other gobsmacking silly moments like that.
Apparently even Radio Times has given episode 2 a poor review.
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It wasn't as good as the premiere, but I'm definitely digging Miracle Day. The flashier, more action-y style is totally working for me, and I love the humor. But despite this, the show manages to explore some pretty serious and interesting themes about modern society and whatnot. A perfect combination.
Also: God, I've missed Russell T. Davies. I see and understand all faults in his writing, but I don't give a damn. It just works for me, and that's it. I can't even watch Moffat's Who - it's a completely different show, so Torchwood's return is really welcome.
Aside from all the incredibly unrealistic 'I Love this and this and this' not to mention the Moffat bashing, they say that episode two isn't as exciting as one.
yeah I heard that RTD was pulling the same offensive shit again. It's smell the queer all over again, but NOT ON JACK, OH NO! he just gets to be the pussy AGAIN while Gwen plays the loving heroine. Then there was apparently a lovely mention on the Indian folk...who were 'supposed to wage war' due to the lack of reincarnation. What sort of BULLSHIT is thát, I mean the Christians could go on the same rampage because they'll never get to heaven either.
Just for good measure, I'm adding this review because it speaks truth:
But really, when people aren't dying what's the point? Other than to let the F/X people show off something that was last cool in "Death Becomes Her"?
It definitely slowed her (Dichen Lachman's character) down so he could leave. Although I suppose bashing her head on the ground to knock her out would have been more effective and less permanent. Not that I think he cared about that just then.
I don't think I've ever seen a more obnoxious and less likeable character than Rex before and he's supposed to be a good guy. I don't know why he's incapable of not being annoying but there it is.
I do think that it was strange how everyone was calm at the beginning when they thought they were all going to America but once Rex made the sensible decision to leave the civilians out of it (though he did it as obnoxiously as possible, of course) they all started freaking out. Maybe if the kid wasn't there but the husband really needed to stay safe to deal with her.
I don't even know why Rex bothered to cuff Gwen again after the poison given how quickly she broke out last time.
And while Esther normally seems pleasant enough and competent (though with no taste in men), I found her remark about how she expected that once Indians no longer had to fear the consequences of their actions in a future life they'd start waging war to be a bit...unfortunate.
Real responsible guys! let's take the baby and the civilian with us on this life threatening mission, good lord, this just shows me how ridiculously careless, thick, stupid and unresponsible these people are.
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That's a bit rich, isn't it? Considering how far removed this 'new' Torchwood is from the first two seasons, I mean. The new Doctor Who isn't that different (except better written and more consistent, in my personal opinion).
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Call the Third (Jon Pertwee)Doctors show " a completely different show" by all means, as it was (Doctor stranded on Earth...) but this Moffat show is BRILLIANT!! AND, much more telling, I see no slip in the ratings, in fact they are going up.
If TW had had brilliant ratings I should have had to have conceded, "OK, it's not for me but it is a success" as this idiot should be doing for DW, but Miracle Crap is not a runaway success, it's a bit of a "meh" if you ask me.
I can't wait to see it relegated to Tuesday night in BBC2 at 11 o'clock!!!
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Which might even have worked if they hadn't discarded their existing audience first. New viewers plus existing fans might have brought the figures high enough. But just new viewers...? It doesn't look like it. That probably shouldn't make me feel as good as it does, should it? Guess what, RTD? You do need the fans, so there. :)
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But the most interesting thing indeed would be how ratings progress over the next weeks. As bad as COE was written it for sure was getting people emotionell attached even addicted. there even was a "you msut see this" going around. But so far I haven't seen much overexcited reactions to the frist two MD episodes. Even fans who loves COE are rather indifferent about it and comment "it's not Torchwood anymore". I somehow doubt that it will be able to keep or even increase viewership. Also it could make a difference that it's aired on a weekly and not daily base. With all this media overflow we have those days people easily get distracted by other, more exciting things. I really doubt that MD is able to attract as many new viewers as they lost old fans with COE.
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I think this is going to make a huge difference in the ratings as compared to COE. Also, with COE, people kept watching to see how RTD was going to bring back the "hope" of the previous two seasons. Now, we know going into MD, that RTD only wants the "life's a bitch, and then you die, and when you do, death's a bitch, too."