Because the writers seem determined to put Jack and Gwen together we should start a Rhys/Ianto death pool. I'm actually surprised that they have lived as long as they have. I'm thinking they'll kill Rhys off in the last episode of Series 2 (saving Gwen, of course) which will make it the biggest story arch of Series 3. Oh the angst (of the fandom, not Gwen).

Poor Ianto, will be swiftly killed off in the first episode of the Series. Of course whilst Gwen's 'grieving' for Rhys she'll fall into Jack's arms, because that is just the kind of caring person she is *rolls eyes*. Jack will realize that Gwen is his one true love and Ianto won't be mentioned again.

I'd love to know what everyone else thinks.
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From: [identity profile] dr-is-in.livejournal.com


I have Bleakhouse and the movies he's done, and projects he'll do in the future, to see me through....

Because if Gwack becomes reality, the entire focus of the show will change and it will become the Jack/Gwen show....

From: [identity profile] dr-is-in.livejournal.com


My belief is (and this mirrors some other speculations I've read) is that Jack DOES love his entire team. We see that at the end of Adam. But when it comes to Gwen.....I have a feeling that they are playing it like he sees something of Rose in her, and he loved Rose and its a transferrence things. But, I want to believe most of his reactions to her this season (especially THAT scene in KKBB) are because of what he went through during "the year that never was". Belief is that he spent that year with the memory of his team to keep him sane, and he's come back to find so much has changed, and it hurts and scares him and he's fighting to keep hold of them. That's why he reacts so badly to everything with Gwen/Rhys...she's pulling away from him and the team, and hes trying to keep them all together.

Or that could just be my delusional rambling...

From: [identity profile] haces222.livejournal.com


True but I swear if something even remotedly close to that happens I will definatly boycock the show and stick to sites like this where people with an iota of sense come. You'd think RTD wouldn't be so blinkered to realise his creation is widely disliked.

From: [identity profile] farferello.livejournal.com


Oh that's gross to even imagine. If Ianto got killed off and that... pairing happened, I'd stop watching. x_x Blech.

From: [identity profile] farferello.livejournal.com


*Nodnod* Totally agree, the writers of Buffy did the same thing to me and made a pairing I hated canon so I stopped watching (even if the pairing was incredibly popular unlike this one) but still. Ugh. I don't mind cliff hangers and twists but if anyone should be killed off, it's her. Not going to happen but I can dream.

From: [identity profile] farferello.livejournal.com


I recorded the first season and only watched it recently, I sat through it in two days and the amount of screentime Gwen took up... by the end I was calling it the Gwen Cooper show because she had her fingers in almost every episode and ugh... just thinking about it makes me cranky.

I'm so very glad I found this community. It's like a haven.

From: [identity profile] kellysaysrawrrx.livejournal.com


ugh.
i hope to god that it never happens >.<
though, if it does, i'm sure that they'll lose a whole load of viewers and it'll serve them right

From: [identity profile] pfyre.livejournal.com


Because the writers seem determined to put Jack and Gwen together we should start a Rhys/Ianto death pool. I'm actually surprised that they have lived as long as they have. I'm thinking they'll kill Rhys off in the last episode of Series 2 (saving Gwen, of course) which will make it the biggest story arch of Series 3. Oh the angst (of the fandom, not Gwen).

Poor Ianto, will be swiftly killed off in the first episode of the Series. Of course whilst Gwen's 'grieving' for Rhys she'll fall into Jack's arms, because that is just the kind of caring person she is *rolls eyes*. Jack will realize that Gwen is his one true love and Ianto won't be mentioned again.

I'd love to know what everyone else thinks.

oh lord you don't really want to know what I think of this speculation! *head in barf bucket*

luckily Ianto (Gareth) has great support via the production crew and among the fans - hell we know the lag behind the writing/filming compared to the broadcast - the writers/producers loved Ianto and Gareth's portrayal of the character from the get-go -- I serious doubt they would get rid of Ianto without some other outside provocation

also it seems as though the main person in the production offices that embraces Gwack is Chris Chibnall - Russell and Julie need to get their acts together and yank Chibnall's head out of his arse

from watching series two so far it does not appear that John is 'buying' the whole Gwack shipperness - every time there is supposed to be one of "those special moments" btwn them John's performance comes across as tentative, stilted and uncertain

Russell and company also seem to really love Rhys (Kai) and made a huge deal about making certain he knew that when Rhys was killed in the series one finale that it was permanent - so I can't quite envision them suddenly deciding Rhys should be gotten rid of to make way for Gwack (*cough cough* sorry something caught in my throat)

*if* there was some huge shake up in the TW cast - the ONLY one that would guarantee my departure from the audience would be the departure of Jack (John Barrowman) -- I might continue to watch if we lost Ianto - though I would NOT be a happy camper -- and frankly the loss of Rhys wouldn't really affect my viewing all that much

hell we've already withstood the rumours surrounding series two and the death of a TW teammate and now we've had this happen - though not in they most would've envisioned - so who know what Russell and company have in store for future series

From: [identity profile] pfyre.livejournal.com


The only reason I'm thinking that Rhys will be killed off is because Eve said in an interview that Gwen ends Series 2 broken. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

eh - personally I take what is said in interviews with a definite grain of salt - the actors by the end of filming do indeed know much of what is to happen but they are also under certain restrictions as to how much can be revealed and teased about - frankly I'd love to see Gwen broken and that would be finding out that she is not the be all end all of all things in the universe and that Jack doesn't love her the way she thinks she loves him

hell maybe it just means that FINALLY Gwen has to suffer the consequences of her actions - cause it still peeves me to no end that everyone else has had to suffer the consequences of their actions and those of others EXCEPT for Gwen - she lies to Rhys, she has an affair, she retcons Rhys, she betrays Jack, etc. and still all and all she ends up with a very much alive Rhys and still a part of TW - grrrrrrrr

From: [identity profile] ceindreadh.livejournal.com


Ah, maybe Gwen is 'broken' because she dumps Rhys, goes to pick up Jack, and walks in on him and Ianto mid shag :-)

From: [identity profile] xxxiluviantoxxx.livejournal.com


if that happens i will not be responsible for my actions
and uve got me worried now

From: [identity profile] pinkmandy07.livejournal.com


nooooooooooooooooooooo carnt let that happen
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