JB's new book

[blucougar.livejournal.com]

At the beginning of one of the chapters in John Barrowman's new book 'I Am What I Am', he lists twelve things he loves about Captain Jack Harkness.Can't remember where they come in the list, but two of the items are:
*Ianto's knowledge of things to do with a stopwatch
*Jack's adoration of Ianto

Okay, so I know I'm reading more into this than I should, but I couldn't stop myself from thinking, "Gwen never made the list, but Ianto's on there twice!!!"

On another interesting note, John expresses more in his book than he has at any other time just how unhappy he really was about Torchwood being cut to five episodes, and about the cast being stripped back from five, to three, and then to two. Not happy at all....

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John Barrowman is a professional actor

[hohaiyee.livejournal.com]

I think he probably extremely turned off by where Torchwood went, but as a professional actor, he has to act supportive.

Really???

[as1mplegirl.livejournal.com]

How unhappy???

Re: Really???

[emzbuckley.livejournal.com]

I got the feeling that John isn't going back. I don't know about anyone else but that is what i felt and so did my mum.

Re: Really???

[jpren678.livejournal.com]

there is an interview at digital spy who he say he want to come back.

Here the link:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a179453/john-barrowman-talks-who-torchwood.html?locale

Re: Really???

[hohaiyee.livejournal.com]

Good, he'll be alright.

Heck, people in Canada know him outside of Torchwood. The ads for How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria?, with him in it, was all over Toronto.

I just wish that Naoko Mori and Burn Gorman have found something else too. It's been a year. I hope the new viewers of CoE will watch the old seasons, and love it better. I loved the V for Vendetta movie when I saw it, but then I read the book, and the book was much better, and I felt that the movie was a bastardization of that, and I stick to book canon. Hopefully there will be more interest in Mori and Gorman then, because they did brilliant work.

[wanda1969.livejournal.com]

Having seen that weird Gareth David Lloyd/ Eve Myles interview (BBC Breakfast of the morning before CoE was broadcast) and getting the RT for the week of CoE where John Barrowman said that TW "Was being punished", I suspected he (JB) was not in the least bit happy...Oddly, he had VERY LITTLE to say in the RT 3-page spread about the upcoming series of TW (ie CoE)....
I think we should have all seen it coming...

[jpren678.livejournal.com]

at least he mention a little Ianto in the book.

Long live to Ianto.

Ianto is not dead, he drink coffee with me.

happy he not mention Gwen in this book.

Do you realize how much Jack Harkness is destroy without Ianto?

Ok, if you don't want spoilers, don't read this post.

[emzbuckley.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with you. He came across as very unhappy with season 3 and the direction TW was going. He was very distant and almost angry in certain places.

He made little snide comments about RTD, JG and the Euros guy.

He wasn't happy about the direction he was being given or the actual work he had been given and what kind of actor they were turning him into, which in my opinion was the character but profile actor and not main lead.

He wasn't happy with how jack was being treated or what they were turning him into.

He didn't really mention Eve, she was mentioned in passing but unlike the first, there was really no story about her. Interesting?

He didn't mention the death scene with Ianto at all, unless i blocked it out, but he did mention the one with Stephen.

He seemed to spend a lot of time in his trailer, alone to calm down.

He talked more about Burn, Naoko and Gareth than Eve.

His called the chapter, where do we go from here, now the song is where do i go from here? Assuming he is a Carpenters fan, the lyrics of the actual song are very interesting, maybe it is a hint?

But the thing i did find the most interesting is the fact that he was paranoid about season 3 and kept asking scott his opinion on it and as more and more scripts came out and time passed by, he only got worse and kept on asking scott his opinion.

Now, i like you thought, i'm reading too much into this so i got a second opinion, my mum, who is completely unbiased, i made her read the chapter and her opinion was, he was very unhappy and didn't like how he had been treated by them and he didn'tlike the way it was going and in her honest opinion, and it is just an opinion, i am not saying it is true, but in her honest opinion, he has left TW and isn't going back. I don't know if you got the same opinion or feeling, but that is the feeling she got.

Re: Ok, if you don't want spoilers, don't read this post.

[jpren678.livejournal.com]

I think maybe he want to leave but I don't know after the recent interview.

He don't mention the Ianto death ?????
Stephen I agree totally but no Ianto. The death of Ianto was poor writing and the death mean nothing. They completely erase it.

Also, why he want the opinion of Scott? Because of the queer jokes?

Re: Ok, if you don't want spoilers, don't read this post.

[emzbuckley.livejournal.com]

No, he was paranoid about what was going on in the show and how it was panning out. And the more scripts he got the more paranoid he became.

No, he didn't mention ianto's death as far as i can remember, although i seem to have a block when it come to mentioning it, lol. He only mentioned stephen's death as a comment about the direction Euros was giving him, which he didn't seem happy about.

Re: Ok, if you don't want spoilers, don't read this post.

[ceindreadh.livejournal.com]

His called the chapter, where do we go from here, now the song is where do i go from here? Assuming he is a Carpenters fan, the lyrics of the actual song are very interesting, maybe it is a hint?

There is a song called 'Where do we go from here'. It's from Once more with feeling, the musical episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

All those comments from the book, very very interesting. I wonder if JB feels that he's effectively done with Torchwood so he might as well let it all hang out so to speak. I can't imagine him working willingly with the same production after spouting off like that, so he - and his editor/manager - can't be overly optomistic about him doing more Torchwood.

It's a shame, not only for us fans, but JB always seemed like the biggest fanboy of all, and he seems to have been screwed over as well.

[emzbuckley.livejournal.com]

I have to say, i love the book, i really do. I love the whole adoration of Ianto bit, so cute.

And i also loved the lack of eve in this book.

But i can't re read it for the next couple of days! SOB!!! I have an assignment and i am behind on preperation for it.

Do you think i could get away with blaming the book if i get a low grade? lol!

[onlyoneargess.livejournal.com]

No Eve in the book, good.

BTW I looked up the lyrics for the song and they are telling:



Autumn days

Lying on a bed of leaves

Watching clouds up through the trees

You said our love was more than time

It's colder now

The trees are bare and nights are long

I can't get warm since you've been gone

I can't stop singin' sad songs



(*) Where do I go from here?

Tell me where do I go from here?

You said you'd take me through the years

So where do I go from here?



Lover's plans

Like fallin' leaves on windy days

Flutter past and they fly away

I though I knew you oh so well



And I need you now

I need to feel you in the night

I need to your smile so warm and bright

I wish my mind could let you go



Repeat (*)



You said you'd take me through the years

So where do I go from here?

[jennelldhalrbj.livejournal.com]

I was surprised by John's seeming lack of enthusiasm for COE in his book. However, he is employed by the BBC and, as others have discovered, people have to be careful what they say in Public when the BBC is their employer.

He said recently that he was booking for 2012 now, so unless he has left a longish gap someplace, in case Torchwood is renewed, he will not be able to do a full Season even if there is one.

As for Eve, I think she has probably, in the words of a popular saying here, put her foot in it once too often for even John. Saying Jack and Ianto's relationship was for comic relief couldn't have helped much either---

[cyberdigi.livejournal.com]

Well, reading through the entire thread I'm now more convinced than EVER that COE was just a way to make Gwen the focus. Destroy Jack and Ianto's characters and actually kill Ianto and the only "hero" left is Gwen (we have to love her because if Ianto lied about his dad so what else did he lie about? *rolls eyes*). To be honest I'm not sure the writers/RTD WANT Jack back.

I think the only way John would go back is if they FIX what they broke, now I don't necessarily mean bring Ianto back (although this is Scifi for God's sake and if Stargate can kill Daniel how many times???) but they'd have to fix the character destruction that at least was done to Jack.

Scheduling...hmmm...interesting thought, Eve WANTS in but if she can't make her schedule fit John's, providing John signs on. Oh my what an interesting "discussion" that could be.

[ceindreadh.livejournal.com]

Scheduling...hmmm...interesting thought, Eve WANTS in but if she can't make her schedule fit John's, providing John signs on. Oh my what an interesting "discussion" that could be.
Oh indeedy, to be a fly on the wall when that conversation would be taking place!

[cyberdigi.livejournal.com]

OH yes, I can see it now a "discussion" on who's show it REALLY is....damn that almost calls for someone just to make it up because what a sight that would be.

[jpren678.livejournal.com]

the only way I see to fix Jack is bring back Ianto if I follow the novels who say clearly Jack love and care for Ianto and can't continue without him.

In the Shadows, Jack admits to himself that Ianto is the man he loved and that he is also the one who is closest to understanding him.

The Sin Eaters, audio book he claims that Ianto Time is his favourite way to spend an afternoon and later, that he needs the Welshman more than he cares to admit even to himself.

In the Radio 4 play, ‘Dead Line’ Jack tells Ianto that he is more that just a blip in time suggesting that the Welshman is significant.

Adam episode, we see clearly Jack can do anything to thrust Ianto. It's because of Ianto Jack save the team.

The firts episode of season 2, Jack say to Ianto I come back for you.

So I don't see how they can fix Jack without bring back Ianto.

And I not watch if they give to Jack another piece of ass.

[cyberdigi.livejournal.com]

See the one glitch with that is realistically eventually Jack would have had to deal with the death of Ianto one way or another, as he will with everyone he will ever know.

I'm not saying Jack doesn't love Ianto, if anything his reactions at the end of COE support it, but Jack is immortal and hyperaware of that fact.

I don't like that they killed Ianto or many of the reason they did so, though John's reasoning he gave in that recent interview is a bit easier to swallow. I also don't really like how they killed him for many reason such as it's full of plot holes and served no real purpose other than to kill Ianto.

However they destroyed the characters of Ianto and Jack in that series, by making them be and do things that they aren't and wouldn't do. That can be fixed.

Also while the books are great I think at best they are debatably cannon.

[jennelldhalrbj.livejournal.com]

Since I am too huge and pregnant to do much I am on line again---yippee---anyhow, I just felt like adding that as far as I am concerned there is absolutely nothing they could do to Gwen's character to make me like her now. This is mostly because I think Eve isn't that good an actress. She is OK but, compared to folk like Burn and Naoko and others, she is second rate--so---

Sorry for this opinion but that is how I feel. I do not like all that overacting she does with the eyes bulging and the heaps of tears and hysteria-----

[ceindreadh.livejournal.com]

Q (turned human) "What can I do to make you believe I'm telling the truth"
Worf "Die."

Think that'd help you like Gwen? ;-)

[jennelldhalrbj.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah--dead Gwen----

[holdingoff.livejournal.com]

I find it interesting to notice that no one has mentioned the variety show JB got on BBC which just happened to fill the period prior to Children of Earth and has apparently not been renewed?

Maybe, just maybe, that show bought JB's loyalty through CoE and now the contract has ended?

[onlyoneargess.livejournal.com]

Interesting thought.

[jennelldhalrbj.livejournal.com]

I heard that they were in talks about a new Season of this show. They are talking about it anyhow---

I do not understand this line----
Maybe, just maybe, that show bought JB's loyalty through CoE and now the contract has ended?