I got my TV mag today and there was a little section on Eve's new drama with Trevor Eve and a couple of things struck me. 

First, for all of RTD's sayings on how great eve is and how TW is her show, etc, it was nice to see that Trevor was the one people wanted to talk and not her and she only got mentioned in the last paragraph, that did fill me with a sick sense of smugness.

But here is the interesting thing, there was a description of her character in the show:

Angharad, played by eve, has an even bigger impact on Lester ( Trevor Eve's character ), MAKING HIM LOOK AT HIMSELF AND HIS BELOVED ART IN A DIFFERENT WAY.....

ANGHARAD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING HIM REALISE THAT BEAUTY LIES WITHIN PEOPLE AND NOT JUST THE CANVAS.

Now, it could just be me or does sound eirely familiar? Oh yes, this is what Gwen was doing with jack wasn't it?

So apparently, the best actress in Wales according to RTD is so good, she is playing the same bloody character in two different shows.

Thought i would share it with you all.



From: [identity profile] mjmcca.livejournal.com


Ok I know this is going to seem incredibly arrogant and dare I say it "ugly" American of me but this phrase: the best actress in Wales, has very little meaning for me.

I lived all my life until 2 years ago in NYC. If she was all that great she would be making the big bucks here.

Saying she's the best actress in Wales is like saying she's the best actress in some small Midwest town. I would say she's a big fish in a small pond, but its more like big fish in a puddle.

She's an Ok actress but not Oscar, Tony, or even Emmy material.

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


I bet there's little on the tv on the bank holiday weekend- as I've said before, I'll pobably watch "Framed", just to see if there is any difference in the character/acting is any different to EM's appearances in Dr Who, Merlin, TW. Having seen the trailers on TV, I doubt it....
I look forward to seeing the preview coments in the RT (I suspect that's the magazine you are talking about?)when I buy it! But yes, it's sounding like she's a bit of a "one trick pony" to me.
However on the subject of actors/actresses...many UK performers do not want to go to NY/LA they WANT to work for the BBC (though if the BBC carry on like this I can't think why!) or on the LOndon stage- and I'd have to agree with them in many ways! Also look at US actors clamouring to be in the West End- Kevin Spacey, Nicole Kidman, Faye Dunaway (BBC, not stage...).
Mind you, the W.E. is not Wales....! Perhaps that's why she's not described as "one of the best actresses in Britain"?

From: [identity profile] mjmcca.livejournal.com


I think I missed my meaning. I doubt she could make it on the West end either. She's an OK actress, but along the lines of what I would see here on the lifetime movie channel. Nothing special just average.

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


I think we both lost each other's meaning!
It's true- not quite sure what "best actress in Wales means"! Never seen EM on the stage (and she was with the RSC), but from tv, I think I know what to expect! More wide eyed wonder...toothy grins...ugh! Quite frankly, I don't think I'll ever be able to get away from the characterisation of Gwen...well, it may take 20 yrs at this rate!
If RTD (and the BBC)carries on, she will definately be overexposed in the same sort of character..
Never mind the "Gwen character" in TW...who on earth thought that the audience would identify with her??

From: [identity profile] onlyoneargess.livejournal.com


Here in America if she was that good and a studio felt secure whit her a pilot would be written just for her in mind. (And not an existing/another written for a better known actor)

I also find it funny that just one paragraph mentioned her. Also, she can't seem to get out of that "Gwen" mode, uh?

As it stands right now, if she were still an unknown, she would be just an extra in films and TV here.

From: [identity profile] jsks.livejournal.com


a thought, rtd may not not have done eve many favors in casting her as gwen and then not allowing her to her grow as an actress. coe despite the fact that it was very gwen-centric left most critics and fans talking about ianto's death and gdl and jb performances and very little about eve. eve did do not do herself any favors in interviews. anyone remember the one where she said gwen was the saving the world and jack and ianto were their for "comic relief" a true wtf moment if ever i saw one. ianto's death and jack sacrificing his grandson had me rolling the aisles.(ianto eye roll)
the fact that bbc has not announced a season 4 makes me wonder if they are having doubts about eve's drawing power.
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


Yes yes and yes. That's what I've been telling people before CoE aired that they're not going to kill what's left of the cast if they want a season 4. Then RTD did killed the rest of the cast. Ditto on the JB thing, I started watching TW for JB and BBC seriously shouldn't expect people to watch it if JB is not going to be in S4.
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


Oh gleee~ I'm usually not a bitch, but I'll make an exception for RTD. I think the reason he's going "look! I'm writing season 4!" It's because he found the States to be hard to break into. Come to think of it, I have no idea what he's saying about where he's taking TW either if a S4 gets made... All I've heard is that he thinks TW is too sci-fi, then I pulled a WTF face.

I didn't know he pissed BBC off that much that it got brought up in an interview, what did they asked and what did he say?

Oh gods, reason number two I didn't think RTD would kill off Ianto, it looks so politically incorrect by killing off the gay relationship. While other people can argue it's not homophobia and the reason behind it probably wasn't, it still looks bad.

If BBC want a S4, they need JB back and I'm pretty sure they know it, provided JB doesn't decides to stay in the States.

TW is as good as dead now, watching CoE wasn't just painful to watch because it was so lazily written, it was watching a show we love get dismantle.

I thought Sarah Jane got cancelled?

From: [identity profile] jennelldhalrbj.livejournal.com


Sorry to be so ignorant but who is Trevor Eve? I have, I am afraid, spent most of my time since arriving in the UK for good being pregnant.

As for this program, I will not watch it because I do not watch much TV anyhow. Wales is a very small country. I like the Welsh and my sister is married to a Welshman and has lived there for years, but even so, I am sure there are better actresses in Wales than Eve.

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


I second your comments. And Trevor Eve (unlike EM, that I know of anyway) has won at least 2 Olivier awards, and it wouldn't surprise me if he had won a raft of BAFTAs....

From: [identity profile] jennelldhalrbj.livejournal.com


Oh thanks. I mentioned this to my next door neighbor Molly who knows everything and she said he had been in a lot of TV progs for years.

I have seen Cold Case so I will look for Waking the Dead, if I can get BJ to sleep in time---
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


It would double the hilarity if Angharad is just as compassionate and whatever else RTD told us Gwen is suppose to be on this show as well.

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


....And TRIPLE the hilarity if her character goes around having affairs with colleagues at work/in the village...!!!
And perhaps, quadruple it if she gets to snog her husband/boyfriend whilst simultaneously olgling someone else (perhaps Trevor Eve?)....!!!

From: [identity profile] onlyoneargess.livejournal.com


I found this on, once again, WalesOnline:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/cardiff-news/2009/08/26/mari-ann-bull-10-stars-in-bbc-drama-alongside-trevor-eve-and-eve-myles-91466-24532584/

The first line of the "story" really doesn't suprise me. But what I found to be poetic justice is the name of the girls da is-- Gareth.



Mari Ann Bull, 10, stars in BBC drama alongside Trevor Eve and Eve Myles
A 10-YEAR-OLD girl has landed a top TV role alongside Torchwood actress Eve Myles.

Mari Ann Bull plays one of the lead child parts in Framed, a one-off TV drama which is being screened on Bank Holiday Monday night on BBC One.

The drama, based on the best-selling children’s book by Frank Cottrell Boyce, also features Waking the Dead star Trevor Eve as a museum curator. Myles plays a local schoolteacher.

Mari, from Penylan, Cardiff, started her acting career in 2006 when she appeared in Iolo’s Welsh Safari on BBC and in a string of Welsh-language programmes and TV adverts before landing the major role.

She plays the part of Minnie Hughes, one of four children in a struggling family whose dad suddenly leaves home – a disappearance which coincides with the arrival of priceless paintings from London’s National Gallery for storage in a nearby old slate mine.

Mari’s real-life dad Gareth Bull said: “Mari joined the audition queue at the BBC studios, which stretched through the car park and out into the main road!

“Then she got down to the last three and they chose her to act opposite Samuel Davies, who plays Dylan, because they were really well suited.”

On top of filming for four months, Mari, who is an only child, had three hours’ tutoring every day to keep up with her schoolwork.

Gareth and Mari’s mum Melva, a production assistant on Pobol Y Cwm, travelled with her to filming in Brecon, Vale of Glamorgan and Snowdonia.

“I know I’m her dad but Mari’s just remarkable – she’s such a lovely girl and really good fun,” said Gareth.

“Her memory is fantastic, which helps her learn scripts quickly, and the director and producer definitely think there’s something special about her.”

Mari took the experience of starring opposite famous actors in her stride, having a laugh with Trevor Eve while they were filming.

“We were in opposite caravans and he was always teasing me and mimicking the Welsh accent!” she said.

“I got on really well with him and Eve – she’s a lovely lady and we had lots of fun.”

Gareth and Melva were so hopeful that Mari would get the part of Minnie that they put off their annual summer holiday to Disneyworld in Florida until next year.

“We didn’t book the holiday because we knew the auditions were coming up and believed she was ready-made for the part,” said Gareth.

“Then they started filming in April and we only found out two days before that she got it, so it’s been a whirlwind few months.”

Mari has already decided that she wants to study drama at university and hopes to act in more TV shows as she gets older.

“I was a bit upset when we finished filming because I was having such a good time,” she said.

“I can’t wait to see the programme when it comes on TV – we’ve taped all the adverts and anything to do with Framed.”

Framed will be shown at 8.30pm on Monday on BBC1.


Edited Date: 2009-08-26 06:41 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


I too have see the trailers, and the annoying recreation of the Arnolfi wedding shot- is this the bbc HOPING people will think that this is serious art??
And this begs another question... why is RTD obssessed with the worries of pregnant women? I don't have kids, but I am more than irritated with TV's obsession with kids and the juggling of family life... cliche, cliche!
All I wanted was FUN sci-fi.. NOT family issues I get enough of that at work where mothers constantly do not come into work, and let childless people like myself, cover all their work when they say that "their kids" are ill etc etc.It is somehow expected that I don't have alife and I'm happy to do this....

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


My comments make it sound like I am anti-women (not just anti Gwen!), but the point is, when it came to TW, I was atching it for weevils in boiler suits (where do they get those from?), and fun sci fi. If I'd wanted female angst and child care issues I would have been watching something ELSE- like "Mistresses" on BBC1!!!!!
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


Sorry for butting in, if what happened in CoE is politics, I'll be rolling on the floor. RTD doesn't know the first thing about politics if his own interviews says anything about him.

From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com


Perhaps RTD has a serious case of womb envy? Trying to embrace his inner woman in the shape of the horrible Mary Sues he populates TV with? Like Rose and Gwen? ;)
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


oh gods, so who's going to take one for the team and watch Framed then tell us all about it? I also found it hilarious the above article needs to put Torchwood before Eve's name to remind us where she's been.
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


Well, it's not like I live there... I could BT it, but I think someone would have watched then written it up before I even download it...

Now I'm starting to feel sorry for Eve, it must sucks to realized nobody knows her.
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From: [identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com


lol~ Eve said some other stupid thing in an interview didn't she? I don't follow much interviews unless I get linked to them.

From: [identity profile] wanda1969.livejournal.com


I have every intention of watching "Framed"! As I have said before, I am a Glutton for punishment! I need to know if EM has any other acting technique (that and the fact I have spent far too many years watching nearly every BBC 'event' TV programme; and there were only 3 channels when I was a kid-BBC1 and BBC2 were two of them!!)
IF EM only has one acting style, I also find it amusing to wonder what on earth she was like when she was with the RSC! I can just imagine plays such as Macbeth, Othello et al with extra eye-popping stares, gappy grins and so on.... What a horrendous thought! Perhaps that's why she's on the telly...


From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com


I only saw her in Merlin, and I found her completely talent-free in that one, too. Especially facing such incredible actors like Anthony Head.

From: [identity profile] pitac89.livejournal.com


It was her lack of talent? I thought Uther was just to dumb to live.

Lady Helen: Yes, it's definitely to late for Arthur. (Chackles evilly)

King Uther: (nods sagely and continues to eat).

...Maybe it was a little of both. And then Merlin dropped a chandlier on her. Yes, I very much like Merlin.

From: [identity profile] wiseheart.livejournal.com


Yeah, me, too. Too bad they're gonna brin back the actress for the second season.
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