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wanda1969.livejournal.com posting in antigwenallies Aug. 21st, 2009 04:51 pm)Just thought that many of you may be interested in this small article ("Davies has future 'Torchwood' plans") on digital spy, if you haven't seen it already.
I am glad that some writers/producers' creativity knows no bounds!
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a172247/davies-has-future-torchwood-plans.html
Well, there we are!
I am glad that some writers/producers' creativity knows no bounds!
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a172247/davies-has-future-torchwood-plans.html
Well, there we are!
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And remember, whatever the BBC wants, the TW writers creators are ready....
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Sorry- I'm probably going to give you ightmares if I carry on like this!
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RTD is only putting Jack in as a token thing, he has never wanted jack in the show and now he is going to use him as little as possible. I hope the BBC reject his vision of season 4 and get some people in who can actually do drama, not his pathetic attempt at it.
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what's the other show?
I'm crap unles its mainstream UK shows!
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Series 5, the writer did exactly what RTD is doing, brought all his little favs to the front, pushed the real power actors out or to the back and it was horrific. It didn't even look like the same show, sounds familiar?, and the only thing was, it was still on the actual space station where as we have no hub any more.
The writer got rid of atlest 4 or 5 characters and brought forward people who couldn't act and then tried desperately to fix it but it was too late and it got cancelled. I have to say the actual ending of the show was absolutely beautiful but he wrote it before he turned into a arsehole.
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Which meant that a lot of season 5 was pretty much filler to stretch it out.
The show was not cancelled, it was intended to air for only five seasons. (one of the writers said at a convention that JMS had deliberately only signed the cast to 5 year contracts, rather than the - at the time - usual 7 years. His logic being that if the show proved so popular that the networks wanted to push for a 6th season, then at that point the actors would also be so in demand that TPTB wouldn't be able to afford them for a 6th season)
Whatever mistakes JMS may have made with S5 (please don't mention the telepaths), he still had his 5 year arc planned from the beginning and knew exactly where he wanted to take the show. He may have had to make a few detours along the way, but in the end he got there.
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The posters were saying that they had been Babylon 5 fans and that Babylon 5 producer reminded them so much of RTD. They said that at one panel, the producer of Babylon 5 fired one of the major stars and alternately embarrassed or angered both the fans and remaining actors.
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I see a lot of JMS in RTD, which is not a good thing because it took him a good 5-10 years to snap out of it. He says a lot of the same things that JMS did and has the same ego and attitude that he does as well. The only difference is that JMS created his own universe and RTD didn't.
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There were some eps, like every show that were just boring and it made you feel those 45 minutes but the actual idea of B5, the species and some of the characters he came up with were just amazing. I mean look at the whole shadow war, that was amazing and so well planned out and thought out with so many twists and turns in it. But RTD doesn;t have that.
RTD, he has it all set out for him, he really hasn't come up with any of his own ideas and also, i have noticed that for his finales he brings back aliens and characters that everyone knows, not have a new threat or a new character, nope the same ones. I mean if you look at it,
Season 1 Finale - Daleks
Season 2 Finale - Daleks & Cybermen
Season 3 Finale - The Master
Season 4 Finale - Daleks
The Speicals Finale - The Master
I wouldn't mind but he acts like he is the best thing to happen to scifi and whilst bringing DW back was a big thing, he didnt bloody invent any of it and is taking credit for something he didn't come up with. Its like Branna Braugha taking credit for Star Trek and he didn't invent it either.
If anything is going to save TW from what RTD has turned it into, they have to bring in new writers because he has lost whatever it was that he had when he brought back DW.
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Even so, it took me about ten minutes to get annoyed with Gwen, and one "harrassment" line to fall in undying love with Ianto. I loved Tosh at first sight, too. Needed a while to warm up for Jack, to be honest.
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I have to say, a lot of people had the same reaction with Jack when he was in DW, they didn't like him to begin with but over the episodes, he grew on them and people loved him by the end. I think, when you first meet you think he is a cocky arsehole but as time goes on and you see more of him and the different sides of him, you start to like him more.
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Torchwood: The Soap Opera
Gwen struggles to cope with her baby who turn out to be the second coming and the first timelord ever and running torchwood whilst Rhys thinks she should be a stay at home mum and she has an affair with one of the newbies in the office. Oh, and jack might appear as well, in the last ep for about 5 minutes.
I wish i could say i can't see it happening but i can.
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Other shows have tried that, like Angel, and it just blew everything all to hell. But RTD and his idiots have already blown Torchwood all to hell, so what would we call this after everything has already been blown all to hell?
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What would we call it now, erm... shit? LOL!
Does make you wonder if we should try to campaign to get rid of RTD.
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How very T2...
Please...NO.
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Do you know what the problem is? We can sit through all of these scifi shows, come up with the plot lines and it is highly likely that RTD will try and pass it off as his own brillant idea. The plot for COE has already been done in a film and versions of it has been done in other shows. So it was hardly original.
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I know that there is nothing "new" under the sun, but to have so many obvious rip-offs thrown at me really irks me...I just like a lot of TV (mainly UK), whether its drama sci fi etc etc
Even the sacrifice of Stephen smacked of Small Worlds, and that was the same series...
Those kids chanting "stopping" just made me think that Quatermass and John Wyndham (and Aldiss and Huxley on the sci fi front ,full stop, etc etc) did sci fi better.....
The political drama and BAD/dodgy politicians...well, the BBC has been doing that for years...Edge of Darkness etc etc
Child care/family issues...how often have you seen a police/detective series where the main protaganist (or their partner moans about the lack of 'personal time'?...they got into this business, didn't they realise it would be DEMANDING?
I worked in theatre....simple: so did all my friends and my partner...we all understood that- all your friends/colleagues work in that environment... really, don't want to work at 3 am? Get an office job.
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That's the thing i didn't get with Gwen, she complained that she didn't spend enough time with rhys and the strains it put on her relationship with him but she was the one who spent most of her time at TW and had affairs which took her away from Rhys, it was a total contridiction.
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I now have a "sensible" job, so will be spending the night in, watching tv, and playing with the PC! Yes, I would prefer it if he wasn't working, but guess what? Most shows and events are at the weekend, and in the evening, or at Christmas (aka PantoTime!)! It's inevitable! Someone has to do it.
And when I was a kid, MOST dads worked all the hours that God sent just to get the money in...they didn't have all this moaning and "quality time" stuff, or indeed, "work/life balance" crap! OR paternity and maternity leave, come to think of it.
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He is so very impressed with his mediocre story-telling skills.
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13 specials, 13 episodes, 5 night specials....basically TW can be used as a vehicle for ANY scripts floating about, without any reference to previous series.
I kind of hope there is no C'pn Jack in TW4- otherwise he'll just be an aside to the TW Creche... and Gwen moaning...yet again...
I also sort of hope that John Barrowman DOES NOT appear and gives it all up as a bad job that they were "punished for"...
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Would be great if it as Owen's because she stored his stuff from the regular check-ups that the whole TW seemed to have :D now that would be great soap piece for daytime TV. But alas it's just going to be one of those series that turn into having the woman being all motherly and everything takes a back-step *sigh* Its such a waste of TV space and funding.
Well RTD has got one thing he wanted, everybody's talking about it, can just imagine him rubbing his hands together and doing a Mr.Burns expression.
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Why do the BBC love RTD? He even got an OBE, didn't he---unless, of course, OBE, in this case stood for Obnoxious Bastard Exhibitionist.
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Because you know, even though Gwen was never told about Alice and never met her, she'll still somehow know all about her.
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